Monday, May 17, 2010

"no thing exists"--- Hui Neng

If no thing exists,

How can there be change?
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7 comments:

  1. Diane AZMay 17, 2010 at 10:24 AM

    What is real doesn't change. In a dream world it may seem that things change all the time. But there isn't time or things or anyone to notice any changes. Right?

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  2. tom sullivanMay 17, 2010 at 11:23 AM

    Yes, those are standard pointers.

    However, what I was trying to highlight was not so much that "changes" aren't "noticeable", but the habitual interpretation of "independent entities that continue to exist throughout the so-called change." It struck me that by deconstructing the commonplace assumption of "change" as something factual, there could more readily be a seeing-through of the "whole structure of objective reality."

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  3. tom sullivanMay 17, 2010 at 12:41 PM

    Of course, you weren't saying that "changes" aren't "noticeable" - but that there isn't "any one" to notice "them." That, of course, is the other end of the thread we could pull on to unravel the whole spool.

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  4. Diane AZMay 17, 2010 at 5:56 PM

    I appreciate your deconstructing something that is widely accepted and showing how it can't be.

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  5. tom sullivanMay 18, 2010 at 9:31 AM

    Thanks! It occurs to me that what we were discussing regarding "change" must also apply to any "movement". Yes?

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  6. Diane AZMay 18, 2010 at 3:04 PM

    I would say yes, if no thing exists, and there can't be change then movement doesn't exist since movement is change. A mind would not want to hear this stuff. :)

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  7. tom sullivanMay 19, 2010 at 11:22 AM

    These words come to mind from the end of Wei Wu Wei's second book, "when we realise that nothing objective is real(as such),we become aware that what remains is REALity, and that we must be that(This). This is the meaning of the term "REALisation."

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